Much is said about how many of our laws are made by foreigners in Brussels. (Most commentators now accept it's around 50%.)
But what about basic principles of democracy?
Here are the thoughts of our elite EU leaders.
EU COMMISSION PRESIDENT JEAN-CLAUDE JUNCKER:
EU LEADERS ON THE STATE OF THE EU IN 2016:
On British calls for a referendum over the latest (Lisbon) EU Treaty:
“Of course there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?”
On Greece's economic meltdown in 2011:
"When it becomes serious, you have to lie.”
On EU monetary policy:
"I'm ready to be insulted as being insufficiently democratic, but I want to be serious ... I am for secret, dark debates."
On French referendum over EU constitution:
“If it's a Yes, we will say 'on we go', and if it's a No we will say 'we continue’.”
On the introduction of the euro:
"We decide on something, leave it lying around, and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back."
On eurozone economic policy and democracy:
“We all know what to do, we just don't know how to get re-elected after we've done it.”
On the French and Dutch referendums when the voters said no:
“I believe neither the French nor the Dutch really rejected the constitutional treaty.”
“The EU is like the orchestra playing on the Titanic,” Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi said. Bloomberg interview 10/02/16
“I feel that as a historian it is very similar to some very dangerous moments in our history. You know what I mean: it is like the day before World War One,” he said. Donald Tusk, President of European Council, 10/02/16
“For the past few years, the European Union has been operating in permanent crisis mode. Confronted with one challenge after another, we rush from one emergency summit to the next. More than once we have come to the brink of catastrophe, avoiding disaster by the skin of our teeth.” Martin Schulz, President of European Parliament, at the LSE, 05/02/16
“Europe without Great Britain does not count and is not a counterweight against China, against Russia and against the United States” Guy Verhofstadt, Leader, Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe group of MEPs. 03/02/16
Speaking exclusively to The Independent about the implications of Brexit, Dr Letta (former PM of Italy) said: “The European Union without the UK is not the European Union. The UK’s exit will be the first step in European Union decline.” 11/02/16
“There is an economic and social state of emergency” French President Hollande, 18/01/16
Reading the above, would you want to join the EU if we weren't already members?
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